tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8123225361504762353.comments2024-03-17T23:19:48.565-07:00CartonerdKenneth Fieldhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16738467752479352030noreply@blogger.comBlogger229125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8123225361504762353.post-44865989281697945942019-05-01T12:03:17.547-07:002019-05-01T12:03:17.547-07:00Croyden Tramlink? Shouldn't it be Croydon? Tha...Croyden Tramlink? Shouldn't it be Croydon? That's not the Easter Egg though, is it?FMEEvangelisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00067587737525504257noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8123225361504762353.post-58415366958752133812019-05-01T02:24:13.481-07:002019-05-01T02:24:13.481-07:00Thanks for that, I missed the kerfuffle but as vet...Thanks for that, I missed the kerfuffle but as veteran mapmaker I feel the pain, esp. time constraints (cue images of rabbit holes and looking glasses). If you put an Easter egg in it, is the project posted somewhere? You and John Nelson redefined "perpetual motion machine" and I/we thank you for it!Andrew Zolnai Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14579698318895235779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8123225361504762353.post-32213672960468565902019-04-22T09:20:49.630-07:002019-04-22T09:20:49.630-07:00I feel like the situations you are describing here...I feel like the situations you are describing here are something more than a few people can relate to or have encountered. Reading about your responses to the situation at hand reminds me that struggles like this are not something I alone encounter. I think you have provided an outstanding example of how to address the issue with class and professionalism. I intend to apply what I've learned here in my own professional life. Thank you Dr. Field, and please keep up the writing. Your take mapping and Cartography is always a welcome addition to my day. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07232122262510441690noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8123225361504762353.post-37960924726896554642019-04-05T07:54:23.660-07:002019-04-05T07:54:23.660-07:00Hey Kenneth--I'm leaning on this map heavily i...Hey Kenneth--I'm leaning on this map heavily in a lecture I just wrote for my Cartography class on dot and dasymetric maps. While thinking about how much better it is than randomly placing dots in counties from an accuracy standpoint, I noticed one downside to your approach of using NLCD data: one might question whether all that many votes were actually cast along interstate highways strung out in the middle of nowhere. I'm not sure what to suggest in terms of excluding those suspicious spider webs, but I think it bears thinking about in future iterations. Any thoughts? -CarlNorthlandiguanahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12625394870780462303noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8123225361504762353.post-67364578599191941632019-04-04T20:39:50.078-07:002019-04-04T20:39:50.078-07:00(continued from previous comment)
The other thing...(continued from previous comment)<br /><br />The other thing that keeps people from getting noticed, and not just women (or other demographic groups), is the good-old-boys network. We rely on our circles of friends and colleagues and that’s not intrinsically wrong, but it can lead to being closed and cliquish if care isn’t taken. You’ve railed against this yourself in the past, when you’ve talked about the insularity of certain cartographic organizations that re-elect the same group of people and won’t change. It’s hard for any outsiders or less-empowered people to break into those closed networks, including women. <br /><br />You said that you "wholeheartedly encourage increased participation from any and all under-represented groups to give a better balance in all walks of life" — but the question is, what will you do to help make that happen? Your book was an opportunity; so are future ones. You can amplify the voices of qualified, skilled women and minorities who get overlooked for structural reasons; who weren’t as easy to find but were doing just as good of a job; who deserve to be just as known, but aren’t.<br /><br />You mentioned the all-female editorial team, but they can’t all be balanced against the contributors list, as (unless I understand their role incorrectly). The list of contributors is a statement about, and reflection of, the field of cartography. Having a female acquisitions editor isn’t. Moreover, I want to pre-empt a possible argument some may make (not sure if you would, personally): an all-female list of contributors would not be morally equivalent to an all-male one. In fact it would in many ways not be as imbalanced. Women aren’t the ones in power in our society, so giving exclusive voice to the disempowered is a positive thing. It’s why we have women-only spaces and subgroups at conferences. It’s why some people write books with the active intent to include only women as authors, or in the citations. It’s why, as Justice Ginsburg said, there will be enough women on the Supreme Court when there are nine. Because in the big picture, it’s making space for folks that don’t have it. That’s very different morally than giving space to people who already hold all the cards.<br /><br />I am a contributor to the book, and I think I did a pretty decent job and I thank you for asking me to be one. But, I probably could have asked you in advance who else was being included, and instead offered you a few names to substitute for my own.<br /><br />I just want to acknowledge that while I’ve focused a lot on gender here, you’re quite right that things need “to go beyond simply improving the gender balance.” But this particular item is the more focused issue at hand.<br /><br />That was a lot, so if you made it this far, thank you for sticking with me =). I appreciate your engagement here. But the bottom line is that your list of contributors doesn’t look like almost any slice you could take out of the cartographic field. I am baffled by the mystery of what reasonable criteria wouldn’t capture a fair number of women, as well; our profession is not overwhelmingly male. I fear the list of contributors was a missed opportunity.pinakographoshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09124609873767601446noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8123225361504762353.post-83107288504406507552019-04-04T20:39:30.769-07:002019-04-04T20:39:30.769-07:00I hadn’t noticed this post when it first came out,...I hadn’t noticed this post when it first came out, so I am very late to comment. And it turns out my comment is too long, so I've split it in two. I want to focus on the second half of your post, the heart of the matter: the list of Cartography. contributors.<br /><br />The post doesn’t quite make clear what your criteria were for selection. But in any case, I can logically deduce only three possible scenarios for how the list was constructed (setting aside issues of commercial competition):<br /><br />(1) The list is an accurate reflection (give or take) of the population of cartographers that fit your criteria; that is, in general, only white men met the particular standards you laid out in advance.<br /><br />(2) More women met these criteria, but were deliberately excluded.<br /><br />(3) More women met these criteria, but were excluded because you were unaware of their work or did not happen to think of them.<br /><br />I think that covers the three ways **any list** of contributors/panelists/experts/etc. would come together: either it’s a fair sample of the target population (the folks meeting the criteria), or it’s biased due to deliberate or accidental exclusions. Would you agree with that logic? I do not believe for a moment that #2 is true, and I believe that you are sincere in your desire for a field that is more diverse and has more women in positions of leadership and honor.<br /><br />But this leaves us with scenarios 1 or 3. Again, I’m not certain of the details of your criteria, but the task put to me, as a contributor, was to write a brief and thoughtful blurb about a map. I find it very difficult to believe that the population of people up to the task was almost exclusively male. If you were looking for lengthy experience, name recognition, etc., even then I can name you many women who would certainly have fit the bill. But, again, I don’t want to assume too much about the criteria for inclusion, though if you could expand on them that might be useful to the discussion. I’m honestly having trouble thinking of any set of requirements, though, that would lead to a population of mostly men, such that your final list was a representative sampling of that population.<br /><br />On to scenario 3. Certainly, you and I (and others) are ignorant of plenty of people who are doing good work out there. There’s always more going on that we can keep track of. The problem is that women (& other minorities) tend to face barriers in getting noticed. Social media, conferences, academia — all these spaces started out as being for white men, and are still structured in a thousand small ways that make it harder for women to participate (think of how rare it is for a conference to offer child care, a task that still disproportionately falls on women; think of how often women are asked to be the one taking notes in a meeting ostensibly of equals, thus reducing their ability to participate fully). You and I don’t often notice these things because they don’t affect us; the playing field feels a lot more level than it really is, but you need only turn to colleagues or new sites or social media to hear a long list of stories of microaggressions, structural disadvantages, and, unfortunately, harassment. We don’t live in a meritocracy, and it’s indisputable that women occupy a lesser share of the spotlight, speaking positions, leadership positions, etc. than they deserve if we were evaluating solely on skill and achievement.<br /><br />You said that we should not “think for one minute that there's bias in the selection whatsoever” — but so much bias is without intent or consciousness. There are a lot of women doing great work out there who would have been good contributors to your book, and the work they are doing is just as relevant, brilliant, and incisive as men’s. But they get overlooked a lot because our institutional structures weren’t designed for them to participate in. That’s slowly changing, but it requires **actively** looking for the people we’re not thinking of.<br /><br />(continued in second comment)pinakographoshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09124609873767601446noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8123225361504762353.post-6529284462783986662018-11-26T21:45:12.027-08:002018-11-26T21:45:12.027-08:00This review was fantastic. Thank you for being on ...This review was fantastic. Thank you for being on this tour!trishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10688001590373132381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8123225361504762353.post-8458643416246493792018-11-02T20:33:47.793-07:002018-11-02T20:33:47.793-07:00Thank you so much for being a part of this tour!Thank you so much for being a part of this tour!Heather J. @ TLC Book Tourshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10474181812740579350noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8123225361504762353.post-83920218524219862162018-09-12T04:31:50.008-07:002018-09-12T04:31:50.008-07:00Great insights Kenneth! I hope the organisers tak...Great insights Kenneth! I hope the organisers take note for AGI, BCS and RGS events in the future. Perhaps it's complacency? We provided the fabric maps for FOSS4G (we'll be at the Australian FOSS4G), just attended the last day at the UK Festival and sponsored Geomob. A great chance to meet people we license product from, but I guess, in the UK, we've got used the the status quo, and as a business the registrations and the travel are a big consideration on budget when the events are unlikely to boost sales. I'm quite pleased with the outcomes of SplashMaps' approach this time, not least of all getting to eat lots of cheese to support overconsumption of #GeoBeers! Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07215108804152506035noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8123225361504762353.post-81783307893282589582018-08-14T01:24:57.481-07:002018-08-14T01:24:57.481-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.nidhivermahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17430659615893762022noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8123225361504762353.post-32071164649904163282018-08-10T10:49:11.289-07:002018-08-10T10:49:11.289-07:00Very cool!Very cool!Brandon Brookshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17163509177722642607noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8123225361504762353.post-8718740314290005322018-08-09T15:29:48.604-07:002018-08-09T15:29:48.604-07:00I've recently been exposed to the "end of...I've recently been exposed to the "end of the rainbow" idea, and I like it! The (great) NYT color scheme that you show above seems very close to one of the Colorbrewer2 offerings:<br /><br />http://colorbrewer2.org/#type=sequential&scheme=YlGnBu&n=7<br /><br />I previously thought that I was pretty comfortable interpreting a rainbow palette until I came across a couple of relevant articles that proved me wrong, convincing me to move away from the rainbow. They refer to the improved color scheme as "CIVIDIS", and it has the advantage of being colorblind-friendly. Here are the articles:<br /><br />https://www.comsol.com/blogs/a-simulation-color-table-for-engineers-with-color-vision-deficiency<br /><br />https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/end-of-the-rainbow-new-map-scale-is-more-readable-by-people-who-are-color-blind/<br /><br />Stu Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04625837156635715865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8123225361504762353.post-2833836217472997312018-07-31T08:59:51.463-07:002018-07-31T08:59:51.463-07:00I disagree with much of the criticism of the map t...I disagree with much of the criticism of the map that I've read here and on other pages. While it's possible that I've worked with and made maps for years and have a different understanding, I still think it's shows something important: voting by area. Those vast "empty" areas in the middle of the country have a higher electoral vote per capita than the higher populated states on the coasts. While the map was based on actual voters and not electoral, the large areas where there a few voters but dark colors has the effect of showing the actual voting power of those states. It's a much better map than those showing "red states" and "blue states". With so many states opting for the all-or-nothing allocation of electoral votes, which in some cases disenfranchises almost 50% of their voters, showing a state like CA as blue state ignores the large areas, and numbers, of those not in the dense urban areas. The people who like to argue for popular vote and the abolition of the electoral college would have a handful of urban areas in the country sway an election and be able to ignore the wishes of the less-dense areas. That would leave those in areas of less dense population, like farms, under-represented.<br />If you took all high-density population areas and put them together in one spot in the middle of the country I'd guess that they'd fit in an area the size of Nebraska. How would people feel if every presidential election was decided by how Nebraska voted? Would everyone be cool as long as Nebraska had sufficient population?<br />The colors on the map are fine, again better than the red-blue color scheme. They show there are areas that aren't a near 50-50 split, but solidly one way or the other. California is very much like the national map, with very large areas having a very different color than the smaller urban areas. Attempts to diminish the emphasis on those areas is part of the reason there is such a big divide. How many voters who live in inner cities really understand farm subsidies, water rights, poor infrastructure or even slow internet speeds? (As someone from the country might have less first-hand experience with mass-transit, urban gentrification and multi-hour commutes in traffic) <br /> Those less dense areas feed and house the high-density areas, but some people still think that voting should be by population alone. This map shows that those vast "empty" areas do have people in them and for one reason or another don't vote the same as the people in the urban areas.<br />Mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14027381050209157177noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8123225361504762353.post-14730528740582912972018-07-28T10:34:20.141-07:002018-07-28T10:34:20.141-07:00Didn't we go through a similar episode of cart...Didn't we go through a similar episode of cartographic failure by the NYTimes in 2016? The trouble with the NYTimes is their staff doesn't take well to criticism. Your critique, Mr. Field, was well thought out and constructive. You got snark in response. When 'the paper of record' publishes misleading visualizations it needs to be publicly corrected. Keep up the good work!Dennis M Davidsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13861850532281473798noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8123225361504762353.post-30632473565722605802018-07-27T14:02:41.339-07:002018-07-27T14:02:41.339-07:00Thank you! I saw the map today in the NYT and was...Thank you! I saw the map today in the NYT and was disturbed by it for the reasons you described. I googled “dot map of 2016 US election” and found your map on New York magazine site. Your map is brilliant! It is the map that should be wallpapered everywhere, and I wish your articulation of the problems with the New York Times map could be shouted from the rooftops. Thanks again, I appreciate your work and love your siteAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03633556902916936631noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8123225361504762353.post-59669924560244507712018-07-16T06:23:11.283-07:002018-07-16T06:23:11.283-07:00Very cool, love the inclusion of Null Island! Two ...Very cool, love the inclusion of Null Island! Two questions: how much does it weigh? how much did the bricks cost?Laurence Penneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11069574520838264921noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8123225361504762353.post-61911338617711337732018-07-14T20:18:40.869-07:002018-07-14T20:18:40.869-07:00Nice! thank you so much! Thank you for sharing. Yo...Nice! thank you so much! Thank you for sharing. Your blog posts are more interesting and informative. <a href="https://flatearthers.org/" rel="nofollow">Flat earth forum</a>anderson taylorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14486071685968065268noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8123225361504762353.post-29738141383983681852018-07-04T12:42:47.603-07:002018-07-04T12:42:47.603-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.dirkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03976066654876194057noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8123225361504762353.post-88262772731095031182018-05-26T07:16:34.524-07:002018-05-26T07:16:34.524-07:00Nice! thank you so much! Thank you for sharing. Yo...Nice! thank you so much! Thank you for sharing. Your blog posts are more interesting and informative. A great many people don't understand the most exact world guide is a globe. <a href="https://flatearthers.org/" rel="nofollow">Square and Stationary Earth Map</a><br />Hertha Rickershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12947537525117406847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8123225361504762353.post-76501877168532013542018-04-26T00:18:11.371-07:002018-04-26T00:18:11.371-07:00Sorry you feel that way Kenneth. I just thought y...Sorry you feel that way Kenneth. I just thought you might have bigger fish to fry. No response required.DVD Mapshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05810337584451027847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8123225361504762353.post-3040810099347856912018-04-25T13:17:15.720-07:002018-04-25T13:17:15.720-07:00Part of the problem I feel - the orange trees get ...Part of the problem I feel - the orange trees get a lot of detail. elsewhere gets none. It throws the map out of balance.Kenneth Fieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16738467752479352030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8123225361504762353.post-31313865350561191552018-04-25T13:11:10.102-07:002018-04-25T13:11:10.102-07:00Thanks for reading. I'm not going to take the ...Thanks for reading. I'm not going to take the bait. You can always switch the off button if you prefer.Kenneth Fieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16738467752479352030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8123225361504762353.post-10824028383376685862018-04-25T12:42:52.681-07:002018-04-25T12:42:52.681-07:00I don't mind you going off on one every now an...I don't mind you going off on one every now and again Kenneth, but come on. Seems evident to me that this was cobbled together by a volunteer. "Provided by Friends of Prospect Park" Probs for $0. <br />Your fondness for the park interferes. It's a crap map - we both know that. <br />But you can't expect every wannabe map maker to be data-driven, GIS fuelled or to even know about OSM. <br />So there is Comic Sans. So you don't know Terrance. So orientation could be better. A Creek is missing. Hey-ho. Get over it.<br /><br />Seems to me that an information board is present at a park entrance that was not previously there. It's a small park as you mention. The map ain't pretty but it tells me the basics. <br /><br />I know how to critique a map thank you - choose your targets.<br /><br />#COYRDVD Mapshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05810337584451027847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8123225361504762353.post-55276483368332208152018-04-25T11:11:45.017-07:002018-04-25T11:11:45.017-07:00"Each orange tree gets a uniform symbol."..."Each orange tree gets a uniform symbol."<br /><br />Is each real-life orange tree actually represented in its correct position on the map? The odd spacing suggests they are - but what would be the point? If I go for a walk in the park I'm unlikely to want to navigate to specific trees. I was so struck by that that I didn't see the comic sans... or Terrance.FMEEvangelisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00067587737525504257noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8123225361504762353.post-41077147325820509432018-04-14T10:17:50.092-07:002018-04-14T10:17:50.092-07:00Hiya Kenneth! All the preceding comments aside, th...Hiya Kenneth! All the preceding comments aside, the map is BE-A-utiful and I am looking forward for the write-up at the ArcGIS blog cause, honestly, I'm not a properly trained cartographer or spatial data analyst. So, I'm bookmarking this for re-reading along with alot of caffeine to let the information sink. I'm in for the MOOC on Cartography that's coming up soon :)Azalea Kamelliahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06346781232063936573noreply@blogger.com